Why hobbyists are like sheep

March 9, 2010

The review.

And the lady says it’s not true.

To sum it up for those too lazy to read the links:

A newbie makes his first post to review one of the top San Antonio providers.  The lady in question has been in the business for years and has stellar reviews which numbers I don’t know off-hand, but must be pushing a hundred.  Enough to choke a cow, and let’s call that a technical term.

This complete nobody says the lady offered horrible service and a menu more limited than you can get in a strip club.    Here’s the kicker:  Top provider.  Outrageously high number of great reviews.  And the hobbyists believed him.


I was going to chalk the whole episode up to silly hobbyists behaving like silly hobbyists until I read the rebuttal thread.  One fellow stated, “I just wish Pepper would have contacted a moderator and told them of the fake review/harassment to squash the speculation, save her the hassle and possibly out a troll if that was indeed the case. However, it sounds like she was not cool with the ECCIE board, and that is certainly her preference.

Its bullshit somebody must defend themselves against false accusations, but you must admit, her silence during this whole matter looked bad from an inquisitive hobbyists’ perspective. Remember, we as hobbyist are at risk for robberies, exploitation, battery and other undesired crimes/circumstance from providers and, more likely, their supporting staff (i.e. pissed of S.O., pimps, etc.).”

Oh, you poor baby.  Want me to get you some Midol? 

So much WTF in that post, I’m just flabberghasted.  The irony is of “Bitch, please” proportions, and not only from his assertion that somehow the lady here – who, I remind you, has done nothing wrong – has somehow endangered the poor defenseless hobbyists/victims. 

The only time you’re going to run into a “pimp” is if you’re slumming in the bargain basement world of BP/CL or picking up streetwalkers, which is about as far as one can get from a discussion of one of the top independent companions in San Antonio.  Don’t want to deal with pimps?  That’s easy – don’t be  a cheap fuckwad. 

The piece de resistance, however, is this notion that somehow she owed the hobbyists a rebuttal.  No.  No, sir, she did not.  Rebuttals, nay, ANY instance of a lady offering any opinion that a particular hobbyist has not behaved in a manner which is acceptable, are so famous for being swarmed by hobbyists telling her to keep her mouth shut, that they have now EARNED IT when one does. 

And the notion that her silence implies guilt?  Fucking sit down before you hurt yourself, genius.  You put her in a situation where she can’t win, apparently for the fun of getting to bitch no matter what she does.  Yes, YOU.  Where were you on all the rebuttal and alert threads, with your shit about “Hobbyists are victims of crimes by providers and need all the information from their rebuttals to saaaaave themselves.”  No where, that’s what, so STFU.


7 Responses to “Why hobbyists are like sheep”

  1. Sarah Says:

    Sometimes a rebuttal can actually do the provider more harm than the review itself, but now and then.. when the lady knows she gave good service, and this guy was a complete Wxxker.. it can be very hard to resist saying just ‘how it was’ for her!

    Reviews on the sites where I advertise in the Uk are the property of the author, and no mistake. He can write pretty much what he likes, provided money exchanged hands.

    The problem here is that so many of the ladies write their own reports, that you do not know who has written what, and in the case of some ladies who write negative reports for other ladies, it is up to the lady in question to disprove the meet actually ever took place, so it’s no wonder some girls take FULL advantage of the rebuttal thingy..LOL

  2. I’ve been meaning to write up a post about how to do a professional rebuttal. In all honesty, some ladies rebuttals are incoherent block paragraphs of DOOM, with far too much editorializing and too few facts. It does not help their case to sound like an unreliable hot mess who quit school in the eighth grade.

    Or rebuttals on things that simply don’t matter. See more recent blog post for a damned good illustration of “doing yourself more harm than good”.

    Eccie allows reviews where no money changed hands. Recipe for disaster, in my opinion. They seem to be having a few problems of the “too big, too fast” variety. We’ll have to see how they work out for the long run.

    I hadn’t realized how cutthroat it was in the UK market. Sounds like a nightmare. Incidentally, wanker is one of my favorite words. You should feel free to use it without asteriks. I certainly swear enough, I’ve no objections to it.

    Welcome to the blog.

  3. Chevalier Says:

    Some caveats to begin.

    Not everybody believed the review. 🙂 Even among those who responded. Actually I frequently see people — even those who wouldn’t be categorized as WL’s — challenge a negative review based on a lady’s good reputation and history. Particularly after a lady posts a rebuttal. Some ladies do so and don’t get slammed for doing so, and the slamming for a rebuttal often is concentrated among just a few nasty people. But of course seeing just a few people slamming a few ladies’ rebuttals still casts a chilling effect. I wish more ladies did respond (effectively) although I understand why they don’t.


    Your larger point, though, is spot on. Gullibility is way too common in society in general, with people believing all sorts of odd things without thinking them through. Certainly in politics but everywhere else too. An almost complete lack of the ability to think critically and absence of a healthy skeptical attitude.

    It’s worse in P4P, perhaps especially with reference to negative comments about the ladies. (I’m not sure whether P4P makes clients paranoid and cynical and ready to believe the worst . . . but just attracts people like that.) It applies to neutral or positive comments as well, although they’re somewhat more likely to be challenged as questionable (even when they shouldn’t be, as in “quack” responses to some newbie reviews).

    The idea that a lady’s quality of service suddenly and dramatically dropped, while odd and unlikely, is rather minor compared to some of the stuff I’ve seen people take seriously.

    “Lady A told me that Lady B’s boyfriend is always in the room during her sessions.” Huh? Despite the obvious potential negative effect on her business? And in her dozen of reviews, no one thought to mention that fact? How does Lady A know about it, anyway? No other more probable explanations for Lady A telling you that, or motive for whoever told that to Lady A? You took that seriously enough to ask about it?

    “Yeah, that waitress at the strip club told me that Dancer X and Dancer Y have AIDS.” Huh? X and Y would have told the waitress that, or showed her their test results? People at the club know they have AIDS but management hasn’t gotten wind of it and fired them? No other more probable explanations for the waitress telling you that? You took that seriously enough to ask about it?

    I have a tendency to be a little bit gullible and take things at face value that I shouldn’t. But some stuff is so obviously questionable and yet . . . isn’t questioned. It makes one despair for the future of the human race.

    • An almost complete lack of the ability to think critically and absence of a healthy skeptical attitude.
      Too true. It’s one of the reasons I’m not terribly surprised by what I find in the hobby, by either ladies or gents. I’ve seen too much of humanity to think the hobby world will demonstrate different behaviors.

      Still. Very aggravating.

      In re: your caveats. I expect most of my blog posts will be made when I’m irritated, and will tend towards the slightly hyperbolic.

      • Chevalier Says:

        I expect most of my blog posts will be made when I’m irritated, and will tend towards the slightly hyperbolic.

        I have a similar tendency. Unfortunately, I also have a bad habit of sometimes pointing out qualifications and limitations to others’ hyperbole when doing so serves no real purpose. *sheepishly hanging head* 🙂

  4. LOL, don’t worry about it. Foibles, like taxes, happen to us all. Being analytical and detail-oriented is hardly a bad quirk to have.

  5. Thinking man's whore Says:

    Mama, me luvs your blog! That said, I must say the only surprising thing in this post is that YOU seem surprised that most board hobbyists are mindless douchebags. I’m shocked, SHOCKED!

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